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lagpipi said: Sanji is making a big deal out of everything. So what if his family is abusive, shit happens way worse in real world, get over it. Who is he really protecting? himself? Zeff will be ashamed, as he would have raised a better man than that. It's pretty obvious he has not grown since his childhood, still emotionally trapped as a weak little boy who can't stand up for himself. This arc is dragging on more than what it needs to be because of Sanji. Big Mom is someone Straw Hat would have to be beat eventually, so let's get on with it!! Respect to Luffy for putting up with Sanji. I was hoping the fight to be more of beating Sanji up and taking him back no matter what approach, but that will be just like Naruto.... Good slap by Nami. Sanji totally deserved it. Hoping Jinbe is okay. He is definitely a better man to save than Sanji at this point, but Luffy doesn't even know he is there yet. You're so wrong. He has grown, but the situation is beyond him. Or do you expect him to grow by saying fuck Zeff and leave him die? Sanji is cornered right now. You can't blame him. He has always been a level headed character and from his perspective he can't see other solution than sacrificing himself. |
| I really liked this special, the second episode in particular really lived up to the hype imo. I liked the new opening, this is the first new one since I caught up with the series so it feels weird seeing spoilers for events that I read not too long ago. The first part was particularly flashback heavy but it did a nice job setting things up and providing emotional build up. The second part though is really were the real action got started. Sanji was pretty brutal with his trash talking, it was obviously forced but it was still pretty harsh nonetheless. I got a laugh out of Sanji's brothers getting heart eyes for Nami, I guess being a perv really does run in the family. Sanji vs Luffy was a pretty great fight, not for the action since it was pretty much just a beatdown but Luffy's resolve was really just too awesome. The imagery of Sanji thrashing Luffy with repeated Diable Jambles and Nami crying really captured the intensity of the situation. Seeing Luffy lose his tooth and get his skull cracked from that first kick was chilling, this was a completely different type of fight compared to Luffy vs Usopp and it really showed. Nami slapping Sanji was pretty harsh when you take into account his situation but still understandable. Luffy's speech at the end was really powerful, it was adapted quite nicely from the manga and showed just how much he values Sanji as a friend and as a cook. I can't wait to see Luffy vs the Enraged Army in two weeks. |
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| My god this second half was so good. I had the same feeling like back when Luffy and Usopp were fighting at Water 7. It's something you don't want to see. Friends who are fighting each other. But if you know Sanjis situation, how could someone ever blame him? Luffy lost a tooth from that one kick but I didn't expect from Sanji to go all out with his last attack. I knew Luffy would never die from it but it looked pretty scary at first with all the blood. Everyone who watched that episode knows that wasn't a fight at all. Unlike the fight between Luffy and Usopp, Luffy here had no reason to fight against Sanji. Poor Nami. She couldn't do anything besides watching. I had a feeling she would slap Sanji as soon as she went to him. Luffys speech at the end in never giving up on Sanji, all the memories they showed + seeing Sanji and Nami crying was something my heart couldn't handle anymore. So sad ;_; |
Natsu88Oct 1, 2017 5:42 PM
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| Emotional episode with some great animation. 10/10 episode for me :) |
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| Sanji did nothing wrong. Luffy <33 |
| Huge goosebumps when Memories started. :c Most important episode of the year by far. Things seem to be getting real from now on!! |
| I'll fade away and classify myself as obsolete! Obsolete!! |
lagpipi said: Albi-kun said: You're so wrong. He has grown, but the situation is beyond him. Or do you expect him to grow by saying fuck Zeff and leave him die? Sanji is cornered right now. You can't blame him. He has always been a level headed character and from his perspective he can't see other solution than sacrificing himself. I get that he feels he is cornered and trapped. That's why he has not grown at all. He is just as cornered and trapped as he was in his childhood. Germa 66 and Big Mom are enemies they will have to deal with eventually. Taking out his family and Big Mom will hopefully remove the potential threat to Zeff, especially when Germa 66 appears to be an army of mindless clones. So taking out the heads will be effective. Instead of believing in his "real family", he voluntarily put himself back in the same situation and conforms to his family's wish, allowing his family to manipulate him again. Like Reiju said no second chance. He has not grown emotionally. Plus Zeff was willing to lose his leg and no food to continue Sanji's same dream of finding All Blue. For Sanji to do this, has he not thought it's a smack to his old man's face? It's all very sad for everyone, but I simply don't feel it for Sanji. lagpipi said: Albi-kun said: You're so wrong. He has grown, but the situation is beyond him. Or do you expect him to grow by saying fuck Zeff and leave him die? Sanji is cornered right now. You can't blame him. He has always been a level headed character and from his perspective he can't see other solution than sacrificing himself. I get that he feels he is cornered and trapped. That's why he has not grown at all. He is just as cornered and trapped as he was in his childhood. Germa 66 and Big Mom are enemies they will have to deal with eventually. Taking out his family and Big Mom will hopefully remove the potential threat to Zeff, especially when Germa 66 appears to be an army of mindless clones. So taking out the heads will be effective. Instead of believing in his "real family", he voluntarily put himself back in the same situation and conforms to his family's wish, allowing his family to manipulate him again. Like Reiju said no second chance. He has not grown emotionally. Plus Zeff was willing to lose his leg and no food to continue Sanji's same dream of finding All Blue. For Sanji to do this, has he not thought it's a smack to his old man's face? It's all very sad for everyone, but I simply don't feel it for Sanji. Sanji's flaw is that he's too kind. But how could he continue following his dream at the expense of others? Would Luffy sacrifice his crew to become Pirate King?! Obviously not. |
| I'm a complete sucker for Memories so I was surprised to see a remix for it. This brings me back to the Usopp vs. Luffy era. Was good to watch this animated, but I'm still glad I picked up the manga due to the padding and flashbacks somewhat hampering the impact (way too many eye catches and repeats of previous moments). |
| Oh man this episode. The feels were heavy hitting for sure! Always has to be one low low point before we finally see Luffy emerge victorious! What I love about One Piece for sure, it's just such a wait! |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| this got nothing on usopp vs. luffy. |
| Great episode. It was so sad to watch them fighting... or more like watching Sanji being forced to beat Luffy :'( That reminded me of Luffy vs Usopp, which, by he way, was a lot more emotional that this one. Nice flashbacks at the end from old, good One Piece. That all makes me feel like rewatching the whole series. |
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| Damn, i was surprised to myself that i started crying at the part when Sanji was crying too.. that really hit hard.. Yes, Luffy, you cannot be a Pirate King if you are hungry! So we need the Chief Sanji back :) |
lagpipi said: Albi-kun said: You're so wrong. He has grown, but the situation is beyond him. Or do you expect him to grow by saying fuck Zeff and leave him die? Sanji is cornered right now. You can't blame him. He has always been a level headed character and from his perspective he can't see other solution than sacrificing himself. I get that he feels he is cornered and trapped. That's why he has not grown at all. He is just as cornered and trapped as he was in his childhood. Germa 66 and Big Mom are enemies they will have to deal with eventually. Taking out his family and Big Mom will hopefully remove the potential threat to Zeff, especially when Germa 66 appears to be an army of mindless clones. So taking out the heads will be effective. Instead of believing in his "real family", he voluntarily put himself back in the same situation and conforms to his family's wish, allowing his family to manipulate him again. Like Reiju said no second chance. He has not grown emotionally. Plus Zeff was willing to lose his leg and no food to continue Sanji's same dream of finding All Blue. For Sanji to do this, has he not thought it's a smack to his old man's face? It's all very sad for everyone, but I simply don't feel it for Sanji. Currently if Sanji is to rebel against Germa 66 he will lose his hands meaning his dream of being a chef in the All Blue is all but over, Zeff the man he has more respect for than any other including Luffy and the gang would be executed and if Luffy was to help he would have two huge crews going for the eventual king of the pirates simultaneously after Nami just told Sanji that Luffy is not at full strength. He has most certainly developed as a character, when he was young he was weak and afraid. The fact he came on his own to end the situation once and for all shows he is no longer weak or afraid, he is doing what he has seen Luffy do countless times since they met and go up against impossible odds single handed and win. His family still see him as a weak cowardly subordinate that will back down and that speech from Luffy at the end of 808 will make sure that does not happen. |
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| It really pissed me off during the very slow first half when they keep repeating scenes over and over again and those goddamn little cutscenes where they show the Strawhats' wanted posters, this is fucking new low for Toei. But near the end when they showed flashbacks of the Strawhats' past adventures together and coupled with that classic, One Piece's first ending song which is titled memories, see the genius behind this? Damn I sure did cry like a bitch. Fuck that first half though. |
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| To me these past few eps have felt a bit laklustre with the drawn out pacing more noticeable than on other arcs when they needed to do so but damn when they put out an episode like these I cannot help but feel a few slow eps were all worth the wait. This episode really encapsulated the core of what one piece is and was and really hit damn hard on me than I was initially prepared for. Toei for all the flak they receive(and rightly so at times) really relivers on keypoints of the story like these. Damn that was a good ep and memories by maki otsuki playing with the montage of their older adventures hits right home in the feels. Thank you toei for adapting this particular episode with this much care. |
| ohhh ONE PIECE, how much did I miss you! |
| Brilliant episode and good animation and character details. Very well done feelings that Sanji express. Very strong episode. |
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Jack_100HP said: pathetic. oda should publicly apologize on behalf of toei for ruining such a great show Where is this coming from? |
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So basically a troll post? That explains it. |
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| Couldn't hold back my tears. 807 was so bad... but 808 is One Piece at his best, epic! |
| 'Don't run. Face your fears. Survive' |
| watching this episode at midnight, I had to hold my crying voice.... T_T aaaaa.....love to hear "memories" song again :') |
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| Great episode. I really like it when the 'memories' start playing. Man I cried, I cried. |
| I am going to quote the anime news network review of 808 As for 808, the real meat of this week's One Piece special, my feelings are significantly more positive. The fight avoids feeling contrived thanks to the fact that we still don't really know what Sanji's thinking in terms of how to get himself out of this situation, or whether help from his friends is needed. Stories about Straw Hats temporarily leaving the crew have been done much more effectively in the past, and a fight like this forever hides in the looming shadow of Luffy vs. Usopp from back in the Water 7/Enies Lobby days. The crew has gone through so much together and repeatedly proven what they're willing to go through for their friends. The series can't push that kind of story anywhere it hasn't been, but I think this take on it works by hanging onto a few specific threads: 1.) Luffy's just as surprised as the audience when he happens upon the Vinsmokes on their way to Sanji's engagement ceremony and Sanji immediately fights him off. Like us, Luffy's thinking "Sanji's been through this kind of stuff lots of times! He knows how we deal with this." Then he's forced to realize that no, this might not be one of those times. This makes us wonder if there's something we don't understand. 2.) This is the first time somebody's tried to leave the crew for the sake of a third party (in this case, Zeff). Sanji's forced to play the role of an antagonist so that his family doesn't kill his mentor on the other side of the world, and he's still clinging to hope that this can end with everybody keeping their heads. He's not proud of hitting and badmouthing his own captain, but that pride is less important to him than Zeff. 3.) This fight works well as a beat within the arc itself more than it does for the larger story of the Straw Hats. This is a case where being familiar with the manga and where it's going helps, because Whole Cake Island is such a meticulously structured arc that its real strengths don't show until you've gotten further in. Basically, seeing how the Straw Hats deal with their beef eventually creates a strong juxtaposition between them and the other families of the arc. The drama is just believable enough to serve that role, even if it feels like a worn out trope in the context of the whole series. It's kind of bizarre to place this fight alongside the upcoming Goku vs. Jiren battle, since what we get is mostly Sanji beating on Luffy and Luffy not fighting back. The whole emotional journey of this episode is that Luffy holds his ground and just lets his friend have at it. As far as the presentation goes, it's immaculate. As we reach the end of the fight, and the two pals part ways, everything about the art, music (is that some Ghibli-style piano I hear?), and atmosphere are entirely worthy of the one-hour special hype. Honestly, I think the drama that the direction adds is a significant improvement over the manga version, which was weighed down significantly by the comparisons to other "Straw Hat leaves the crew" stories. And then it wraps the episode up with a montage set to the show's first ending theme, 'Memories', completely pandering to my desire to see the old feelings of this show paid due respect within the modern content. Toei, my buds, my friends, you're free to use insert songs whenever you want. You can do it in every episode for all I care. I'll be happy with it. It feels good to like episode 808 as much as I do, because it's ultimately just the jumping-off point for the stuff that I find really interesting about this arc. I can't imagine that anything else will get such a flashy hype train going for it, but I'll take the emotional roller coaster while I can get it. This "special" is Toei's adaptation at its best and worst, really pushing my patience with all the flashbacks and filler, but also giving me all the depth of feeling I could ask for when the direction really pulls it off. |
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| Wow, finally a good episode. I thought I couldn't cry anymore, guess I'm wrong |
| I dreaded to watch this episode because I couldn't handle the emotion of it. Damn those kicks they still send chills to my body and filled me with sadness. I just couldn't watch more of that beatdown, I closed my eyes for most of that one sided fight. I wished Luffy would have fought more though and jet pistoled him a bit. |
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove  |
Lisa2744 said: Me third, I agree with you two.Juu_Go said: honestly I so agree with uThe tears and snot wouldnt stop coming out. One of the reasons I LOVE One Piece! Why I love Luffy; that he could see through Sanji's bullshit and still have faith in him and their friendship. |
| How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove |
| Sanji is one of my favorites in One Piece but he got lucky that Luffy didn't fight him like he did with Ussop and to be blunt I was disappointed by Luffy (I understand that he would have whooped Sanji's a$$ thus no more Big Mom/Wedding Arc) but Sanjis needs to realize he can depend on his friends with stuff like this (the dire situation that Zeff is in)... |
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| Sanji can't even defeat Luffy if Luffy doesn't fight at all lol. Would've been a 5/5 episodes if Luffy just went Gear Fourth and oneshot that prick. |
| i just started to catch up with One Piece recently, after few months of hiatus. mannnnn after watching this makes me realized that OP is the best anime after all. |
" Have some adventure while you can, and then start to figure things out" 5 Centimeters per Second  |
| Man, this part was a LOT better, not only animation was pretty darn good, it hit me right into feelz a few times ;_; It was SO obvious Sanji was hurt this whole time, but when he started crying I couldn't make it either T^T AND NAMI'S BITCHSLAP NOOOOOO (okay, I was half-expecting her to step into their "duel" and get hit by Sanji, who probably wouldn't ever forgive himself for that lol). Totally didn't expect to hear "Memories", the first OP ending one more time! |
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| I just had to say it in the last ep.. This was one of the best episodes hands down. Beautiful. |
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