VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

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Hlextor said:
That's right. But is it still blackmailing then? Sophia's reluctance gets lost more and more. She will give up this "no, I can't do that!". Maybe she'll say it to herself for a moment, as a fleeting thought, but the aversion won't exist anymore. She will say to herself again and again afterwards or during the tasks that she likes it and to be beholden to Aiden and then she will really look forward to the next task(s)! Blackmailing?
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That's what I asked L&P, will it be so that Sophia will look forward to doing the tasks, and he said that she won't.

Sophia enjoys the tasks even now but hates the fact that Aiden is making her do this. I want it to remain like that.

Also since every task will be more extreme than the previous Sophia's reluctance and anger on Aiden shouldn't really change. Everytime Aiden is pushing her more, if the tasks were on the same level I would understand if Sophia starts enjoying them and wanting more but that's not case. Before every push she will tell Aiden that she can't do it and then in order to convince her Aiden will have to mention the deal.

Though it's all in L&P's hands. I like the storyline because of the potential it has to corrupt Sophia through the blackmail. If it gets removed to becoming completely consensual then I don't even understand the purpose of the storyline anymore. She has more than enough people to provide her sexual stimulation, she doesn't need to rely on a bully who threatens to beat her son for that.
 
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Do you mean no new storyline of blackmail or that Aiden's storyline will also no longer be a blackmail.

I had asked L&P if the blackmail with Aiden will become completely consensual and if she will actually want to do the tasks in the future. His reply to that was that "Sophia will not actively want to do the tasks but will continue to enjoy them more and more." So I don't think he is entirely removing the blackmail aspect, it would most likely still remain the same way it has been till now, atleast in the near future. Unless ofcourse he changes his mind.
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When you have sex with your wife / girlfriend, you want it to be just as satisfying for the woman / man as it is for you. If you suggest a gangbang to your partner, both partners must be clear that there is one that is used here. For the majority of participants, this is primarily about satisfying each other and that the gain of pleasure from the object (in this game, the woman) is of secondary importance. That means for the woman she has to accept it to be used and it has to represent a gain in pleasure for her.
In my opinion, that is the idea behind the blackmail story for L&P. But Aiden isn't L&P. For Aiden, it looks like it is about blackmailing him to create situations where he can have sex with Sophia. And he is ready to use violence to get what he wants. With its answer, L&P only confirms what we already suspected, it has remained very vague, as is so often the case. That Sophia will enjoy the content of the tasks more and more, that has always been clear and is fully welcomed here in this forum. But whether they enjoy / accept their blackmailer more and more is discussed controversially here and was not answered by L & P.
 
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That's what I asked L&P, will it be so that Sophia will look forward to doing the tasks, and he said that she won't.

Sophia enjoys the tasks even now but hates the fact that Aiden is making her do this. I want it to remain like that.

Also since every task will be more extreme than the previous Sophia's reluctance and anger on Aiden shouldn't really change. Everytime Aiden is pushing her more, if the tasks were on the same level I would understand if Sophia starts enjoying them and wanting more but that's not case. Before every push she will tell Aiden that she can't do it and then in order to convince her Aiden will have to mention the deal.

Though it's all in L&P's hands. I like the storyline because of the potential it has to corrupt Sophia through the blackmail. If it gets removed to becoming completely consensual then I don't even understand the purpose of the storyline anymore. She has more than enough people to provide her sexual stimulation, she doesn't need to rely on a bully who threatens to beat her son for that.
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why aren't you giving us the teaser?
 
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When you have sex with your wife / girlfriend, you want it to be just as satisfying for the woman / man as it is for you. If you suggest a gangbang to your partner, both partners must be clear that there is one that is used here. For the majority of participants, this is primarily about satisfying each other and that the gain of pleasure from the object (in this game, the woman) is of secondary importance. That means for the woman she has to accept it to be used and it has to represent a gain in pleasure for her.
In my opinion, that is the idea behind the blackmail story for L&P. But Aiden isn't L&P. For Aiden, it looks like it is about blackmailing him to create situations where he can have sex with Sophia. And he is ready to use violence to get what he wants. With its answer, L&P only confirms what we already suspected, it has remained very vague, as is so often the case. That Sophia will enjoy the content of the tasks more and more, that has always been clear and is fully welcomed here in this forum. But whether they enjoy / accept their blackmailer more and more is discussed controversially here and was not answered by L & P.
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Personally speaking I wouldn't want a relationship with Aiden to bloom. We already have Dylan and Sam for relationship routes,even potentially Zac down the line ( since I guess there will be a choice between Alyssa and Him ). Too many young guys for potential sex scene already, I wouldn't want one more. Especially because the other guys are definitely aiming for sex, Aiden's aim however hasn't been that, it was to just demean an authority figure to show his power. Aiden has a gf, he definitely gets sex. Also he is not shown any explicit interest in milfs unlike the other boys. He has just enjoyed Humiliating her.

It would be a let down to have Aiden have sex with Sophia ( which would mean that the sex was completely consensual, L&P wouldn't even want to tread on the border that she did it because of the blackmail ). Which effectively means Sophia breaks, gives in and I absolutely would not like to see that happen.
 
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hzjujk said:
I don't think so because it was Patricia who persuaded Sophia to attend the museum event. And Elli, Sam doesn't care. But she would get upset about Sam's sister.
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Bane71 said:
I disagree with you! After all, it was Patricia who told Sofia that sometimes she so badly wanted young meat. This conversation took place after meeting the boys near the museum.
Therefore, I guess there is no threat to Sofia if Patricia sees her with one of the young guys.
Ellie also knows that her mother is not okay with sexual relations in the family right now, so she will probably also be lenient with her mother.
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Sophia's position in her relationship with Ellie and Patricia is, on the one hand, that of a loving mother who would do anything for her children and, on the other, a faithful and virtuous wife. I'd say that's the main argument Sophia uses all the time with Patricia: I'm a virtuous woman and you're a little whore.

Here, Patricia seeks to morally support Sophia, to ease her conscience. After a scene with Sam, what will Patricia tell her: I was concerned for you, that because of alcohol you had committed a deed that you would never in your life be capable of, and you, hypocrite, were playing with the neighborhood teenagers.
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And Ellie?
Ellie is still playing, realizing that a relationship with a man is not the same as a relationship with a woman. She reacts harshly when Liam opens the bathroom door, or when Dylan forgets to close the door.
I don't think a scene between Sophia and Sam would go well for Ellie.
Plus Ellie likes older men, so something between Sophia and Sam will be awkward if not disgusting.
That's the message I perceived.
 
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Sophia's position in her relationship with Ellie and Patricia is, on the one hand, that of a loving mother who would do anything for her children and, on the other, a faithful and virtuous wife. I'd say that's the main argument Sophia uses all the time with Patricia: I'm a virtuous woman and you're a little whore.

Here, Patricia seeks to morally support Sophia, to ease her conscience. After a scene with Sam, what will Patricia tell her: I was concerned for you, that because of alcohol you had committed a deed that you would never in your life be capable of, and you, hypocrite, were playing with the neighborhood teenagers.
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And Ellie?
Ellie is still playing, realizing that a relationship with a man is not the same as a relationship with a woman. She reacts harshly when Liam opens the bathroom door, or when Dylan forgets to close the door.
I don't think a scene between Sophia and Sam would go well for Ellie.
Plus Ellie likes older men, so something between Sophia and Sam will be awkward if not disgusting.
That's the message I perceived.
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I agree that Patricia wants to protect her sister as a person who is close to her, who she loves (platonic mean here). But in no case is she interested in protecting her virtue. That's what I see in the scenes with Patricia.
 
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hzjujk said:
I agree that Patricia wants to protect her sister as a person who is close to her, who she loves (platonic mean here). But in no case is she interested in protecting her virtue. That's what I see in the scenes with Patricia.
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It almost seems like Patricia is trying to prove to Sophia that she is no better than her, as if Sophia thought herself better than her sister
 
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hzjujk said:
I agree that Patricia wants to protect her sister as a person who is close to her, who she loves (platonic mean here). But in no case is she interested in protecting her virtue. That's what I see in the scenes with Patricia.
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But the situation that Sophia would be put in, Patricia surprising her with Sam, would destroy the aura of a virtuous and faithful woman/older sister.
 
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KillJoys said:
It almost seems like Patricia is trying to prove that Sophia is no better than her, as if Sophia thought herself better than her sister
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Right, and Patricia will tell her, and the word: hypocrite, will be there. After the yoga event, Patricia tried to get her to confess but Sophia still plays the role of the virtuous and faithful older sister.
 
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Right, and Patricia will tell her, and the word: hypocrite, will be there. After the yoga event, Patricia tried to get her to confess but Sophia still plays the role of the virtuous and faithful older sister.
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Liam is in for a tough time concerning his wife ,so I wonder how he would feel sharing his wife, since he says that he is not the jealous type and that people can look but no touching.
I wonder how Sophia would feel sharing her husband?
 
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Right, and Patricia will tell her, and the word: hypocrite, will be there. After the yoga event, Patricia tried to get her to confess but Sophia still plays the role of the virtuous and faithful older sister.
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I got the impression that Patricia is more condescending to her sister and the word hypocrite will not sound to Sofia, and if it does, it will be in a comic form, but not in the form of a serious reproach. It seems to me that Patricia will treat her sister with understanding if she sees her with Sam and does not pressure her, reproach her.
 
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KillJoys said:
Liam is in for a tough time concerning his wife ,so I wonder how he would feel sharing his wife, since he says that he is not the jealous type and that people can look but no touching.
I wonder how Sophia would feel sharing her husband?
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By definition, Liam doesn't feel anything at all at first. But just as it is sometimes difficult for us not to perceive Sophia as a real person and not as a reflection of our perversions, this also applies to Liam. The question is not what Liam feels, but whether we feel guilty because we, the players, made the decisions for his wife. And whether L&P has the courage to show us the consequences with 200 pictures per marriage fight scene. And the question is whether we should feel guilty, after all, we're playing a porn game here and not a simulation of a marriage counseling center.
 
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hzjujk said:
By definition, Liam doesn't feel anything at all at first. But just as it is sometimes difficult for us not to perceive Sophia as a real person and not as a reflection of our perversions, this also applies to Liam. The question is not what Liam feels, but whether we feel guilty because we, the players, made the decisions for his wife. And whether L&P has the courage to show us the consequences with 200 pictures per marriage fight scene. And the question is whether we should feel guilty, after all, we're playing a porn game here and not a simulation of a marriage counseling center.
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I am on Liam's side. The GW route has the filthy route ending so it would seems like we could be in for roller coaster ride
 
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I got the impression that Patricia is more condescending to her sister and the word hypocrite will not sound to Sofia, and if it does, it will be in a comic form, but not in the form of a serious reproach. It seems to me that Patricia will treat her sister with understanding if she sees her with Sam and does not pressure her, reproach her.
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Nice, next Sunday I expect: C'mon Sophia don't act the prude with me, show me that pussy :ROFLMAO:
 
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why_so__sad said:
Well Liam sure asked her about threesome with her and another girl at her office visit.
And before that, he also said something to her about having sex with other men in sarcastic way.
And if she was already waiting for him in filthy outfit when Liam and his boss entered in office, she sure got upset but Liam didn't care much and he started kissing his wife and getting her ready for intercourse. I think he got aroused of the feeling his wife seen in filthy outfit by another man.
So I think he would happily share his wife or even suggest her to become a hotwife but further down the line Sophia has to fight to get her husband back, from w.
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We don know that further down the line Sophia will have to fight to get her husband back,what caused this rift is unknown be it work/adultery or any number of reasons
 
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