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| I missed those calm chapters focusedon SH's dialogue etc. Goda is on a roll with this arc, pre-skip level quality. |
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| What I keep wondering is if Zeff knew about any of this stuff. Probably not, giving his perplexed look on one of previous chapter covers but still something to think about. Maybe someone will ask about it in SBS, would be nice. |
DarkAngelz said: Benphyre said: family of assassins reminded me of hunter x hunter killua.. chopper got a hard on lmao To accuse Oda of ripping of HxH JUST because Sanji is from a line of assassins is really ridiculous. Next thing I'll hear from you is that Mashima ripped off Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles b/c talking ninja like reptiles/amphibians who kick ass exist in the series. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Toad ^ Like, TALKING ASS KICKING HOARD OF REPTILES/AMPHIBIANS! OMG HE RIPPED OFF "EM! NOOOOOO! -- Also you can say that HxH ripped off Naruto cause HUNTER EXAMS VS CHONIN EXAMS YO! What about HxH ripping off YuGiOh? Like, Leorio is soooooo Joey Wheeler in disguise. Like, both want to help people through medicine yo! That's enough! That's all that's needed by your logic. A loose resemblance of ideas but execution matters null. Like, No man. I just said that it reminded me of HxH. When did I mention ripped off? Why so defensive? I'm accusing Oda?? Wtf is wrong with you dude? |
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| So Sanji isn't from a family of nobles, but a family of assassins. Looks like the prince theory was wrong, but props to the person/people who came up with such a plausible theory. Can't wait to learn more about Sanji and his family. I just love that guy on the first page who accused Oda of copying Togashi. The assassin family thing isn't something that he invented, and it definitely won't stop being used in different works anytime soon. It's funny how people accuse Oda of copying the Zoldyck family, and they accuse Kishimoto of copying the Hunter Exam (I doubt Togashi invented the "promotional exam" thing either), the character who wants revenge for their fallen brethren (I doubt Togashi invented that as well), or an evil group of people who want to control the world, but then no one ever says anything about the fact that Meruem literally looks like the love child of Frieza and Cell. Never have I seen someone accuse Togashi of ripping off Dragon Ball, so why is everyone so quick to accuse other mangaka of ripping off Togashi? And knowing Oda, he probably had the Vinsmoke assassin family planned out for the last 10 or so years, I doubt it was a spur of the moment decision to meet his deadline or something. |
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| Good comedy in this chapter, expecially with Nekomamushi ^^ I think Brook might know one of the assassins of the Vinsmoke family. Maybe one of his old crewmembers. |
Drake1000 said: thebrentinator24 said: So Sanji isn't from a family of nobles, but a family of assassins. Looks like the prince theory was wrong, but props to the person/people who came up with such a plausible theory. Can't wait to learn more about Sanji and his family. I just love that guy on the first page who accused Oda of copying Togashi. The assassin family thing isn't something that he invented, and it definitely won't stop being used in different works anytime soon. It's funny how people accuse Oda of copying the Zoldyck family, and they accuse Kishimoto of copying the Hunter Exam (I doubt Togashi invented the "promotional exam" thing either), the character who wants revenge for their fallen brethren (I doubt Togashi invented that as well), or an evil group of people who want to control the world, but then no one ever says anything about the fact that Meruem literally looks like the love child of Frieza and Cell. Never have I seen someone accuse Togashi of ripping off Dragon Ball, so why is everyone so quick to accuse other mangaka of ripping off Togashi? And knowing Oda, he probably had the Vinsmoke assassin family planned out for the last 10 or so years, I doubt it was a spur of the moment decision to meet his deadline or something. I think it's just a joke for now unless there are even further similarities with the Zoldycks, though for Kishimoto he was heavily "inspired" by Togashi, he himself admits it in his interview with Togashi, and not just HxH, YYH as well. No I'm pretty sure he's serious. His post even says "Lol another one that likes to copy Togashi. Vinsmokes and Sanji = Zoldycks and Killua." And yeah for all I know, Kishimoto really did straight up copy Togashi. But when you're inspired by someone, you want to be similar to them, so it makes sense why Naruto and HxH have those similarities. |
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DarkAngelz said: Benphyre said: family of assassins reminded me of hunter x hunter killua.. chopper got a hard on lmao To accuse Oda of ripping of HxH JUST because Sanji is from a line of assassins is really ridiculous. Next thing I'll hear from you is that Mashima ripped off Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles b/c talking ninja like reptiles/amphibians who kick ass exist in the series. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Toad ^ Like, TALKING ASS KICKING HOARD OF REPTILES/AMPHIBIANS! OMG HE RIPPED OFF "EM! NOOOOOO! -- Also you can say that HxH ripped off Naruto cause HUNTER EXAMS VS CHONIN EXAMS YO! What about HxH ripping off YuGiOh? Like, Leorio is soooooo Joey Wheeler in disguise. Like, both want to help people through medicine yo! That's enough! That's all that's needed by your logic. A loose resemblance of ideas but execution matters null. Like, No man. You quote the wrong guy dude. You should quote the guy from the first page i think. But who is Big Mom's husband anyway? Is it love is blind thing? hmm... |
| I can see Sanji's brother brainwashing him to become a cold-blooded killer. Yes.. to become Sanji Zoldyck. |
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| Killer is a Vindsmoke. Oda drew him as kid with his face covered :) And he's a killer assassin ;)  Chopper wants some of that reindeer p*ssy ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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| Lmao, this chapter was freakin' hilarious... Chopper finally found a girl he's actually interested in. But I think the best part was Nekomamushi playing with the ball and then bleeding all over the place. Just like a damned house cat, lol. Tsu-kki said: And how is that at all a "copy" of Killua's family? They had 5 children, not just 3. Sure we don't know his entire family circumstances... but it's definitely different just by knowing the state Sanji was in when he left. He wasn't some well-trained high-class assassin when he left, because we see him when he meets Zeff and he's not strong at all. And I don't think he's the next in line... he does however seem to have some connection in his family that's tying him down, otherwise he wouldn't go back... which is also different than Killua.I wasn't talking about the assassin family only. Will be fun to see the vinsmoke illumi, the same father, second brother and the sister that has something special to offer. Also, you just contradicted yourself by saying "I wasn't talking about the assassin family only... I was talking about the assassin family as well." Drake1000 said: True... but inspiration doesn't mean someone just takes something out of someone else's book... it means they respect the way they handle things in their writings. Not "Oh, I like that plot, I think I'll do something similar... but with a different twist." Anyway, whether or not it's a joke... you're probably right that it shouldn't be taken too seriously... because every time anything similar happens between 2 series people instantly start screaming copyright and shit.I think it's just a joke for now unless there are even further similarities with the Zoldycks, though for Kishimoto he was heavily "inspired" by Togashi, he himself admits it in his interview with Togashi, and not just HxH, YYH as well. |
| Chopper and Reindeer Girl, i ship it <3 And also, Sanji might still be a prince. |
| Newest Fashion of Drum island!! REINDEER HELMETS of CHOPPER!!! XD Luffy is quite naive...:) thinking that Sanji's Bride will be joning into their crew. Zoro...Is quite right about that they are hunted by One of the Big 4..Immortal Kaidou on top of that Whitebeard himself would sure have difficult to fight. But...You don't leave Nakama Behind! OLALALAA!!! CHOPPER HAS CRUSH!!! XD BEAUTIFUL MINK REINDEER!!! XD GO CHOPPER X THIS FEM.MINK!!!!! Lasange....MASTER NEKOMUSHI IS GARFIELD!!!! and Chopper has met man that is even more difficult to treat than ZORO!! XD Wait...WTF!!??! SANJI'S FAMILY IS FAMILY OF ASSASSINS!??! |
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| Good chapter, always loved how Zoro talking logically to the crew, that's why he became my favorite character lol. DarkAngelz said: To accuse Oda of ripping of HxH JUST because Sanji is from a line of assassins is really ridiculous. Next thing I'll hear from you is that Mashimaripped off Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles b/c talking ninja like reptiles/amphibians who kick ass exist in the series. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Toad ^ Like, TALKING ASS KICKING HOARD OF REPTILES/AMPHIBIANS! OMG HE RIPPED OFF "EM! NOOOOOO! You mean Masashi Kishimoto? Mashima is the one who created Fairy Tail man, not Naruto lol |
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Drake1000 said: Spotted by an anon. >Wine >smokes >Waiter(?) >Pekoms and Tamago in the same page Who could it be? Whoa great find. So many questions now. I'm still wondering who Raizo is. Maybe Luffy & co should speak to the samurais next or even Bepo & crew. |
-Anokata said: Drake1000 said:  Spotted by an anon. >Wine >smokes >Waiter(?) >Pekoms and Tamago in the same page Who could it be? Nice one. Don't forget that it was mentioned they are famous in the underworld. Hmm, Good one...might be HIM....but we will see. |
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| so sanji is a Zoldyck now , interesting |
| OMG everyone thought sanji is a noble LMAO, Oda trolled us. A real funny chapter. One Piece storyline just keep getting better, cant wait for next week. |
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| LOL at Chopper, hehe so now he is the comedy "love" relief since Sanji is starting his honeymoon vacation :P And typical Zoro just pushing the matter as closed, even got Nami into defending Sanji, hehe. Nice chapter. Btw could we already say that the SH territory streches from Mermaidisland, Dessrosa till the moving Mink fortress. Should one also partily include the followers of God Usspop and their countries? Not to mention the subordinate pirate crews ;P Yep Zoro is right with the express train, I mean the influence the SH are gaining is incomparable to the one before the time skip. |
Isterio said: Seriously HxH fans should just all join a HxH only website where they can lick each others asses till the series ends, maybe. Well it'll be some long ass sessions of ass licking at the pace hxh is at lmao lol @DarkAngelz Gotten to!!!!!!!!! Nice chapter. Liking OP's direction lately. |
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Tsu-kki said: Lol another one that likes to copy Togashi. Vinsmokes and Sanji = Zoldycks and Killua... Hiatus x Hiatus fans are funny. Sanji needs 'the eyes' than you can call this a copy, inspired by him? He could be. A bit disappointed Sanji isn't related to some royal family or something. But given the sudden appearance of his family, Oda was really sneaky. I can literally see some fans using this excuse to people who called this BS (and by 'this' I mean Sanji's family that we never heard of before): "The Vinsmokes are assassins, they are part of the underwold market, of course we wouldn't here of them 600 chapters before, praise GOda." Or something like that lmao (Inb4 I'm joking... or am I?). |
metsujin said: Well I mean, when you think about it he was hidden pretty well. There's a reason his wanted poster was the only one that was never actually correct... would almost call it Sanji's doing if it weren't for his reactions to his posters' appearances and to Duval.A bit disappointed Sanji isn't related to some royal family or something. But given the sudden appearance of his family, Oda was really sneaky. I can literally see some fans using this excuse to people who called this BS (and by 'this' I mean Sanji's family that we never heard of before): "The Vinsmokes are assassins, they are part of the underwold market, of course we wouldn't here of them 600 chapters before, praise GOda." Or something like that lmao (Inb4 I'm joking... or am I?). And another thing is that his family is infamous throughout the New World... and judging by the lack of info practically everyone in East Blue had of even the Grand Line as a whole, it's pretty safe to say they wouldn't know much of the going-ons in the New World. Not to mention, as they said before they're from North Blue, so they would have had to cross the Red Line. And to really settle things, the New World is on the side of the Grand Line that North Blue is... so it only makes sense that any information on that side of the Red Line is unlikely to really be heard in the other half, as most people in one half don't really have much reason to cross to the other. |
DarkAngelz said: Benphyre said: family of assassins reminded me of hunter x hunter killua.. chopper got a hard on lmao To accuse Oda of ripping of HxH JUST because Sanji is from a line of assassins is really ridiculous. Next thing I'll hear from you is that Mashima ripped off Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles b/c talking ninja like reptiles/amphibians who kick ass exist in the series. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Toad ^ Like, TALKING ASS KICKING HOARD OF REPTILES/AMPHIBIANS! OMG HE RIPPED OFF "EM! NOOOOOO! -- Also you can say that HxH ripped off Naruto cause HUNTER EXAMS VS CHONIN EXAMS YO! What about HxH ripping off YuGiOh? Like, Leorio is soooooo Joey Wheeler in disguise. Like, both want to help people through medicine yo! That's enough! That's all that's needed by your logic. A loose resemblance of ideas but execution matters null. Like, No man. HunterxHunter came out Before naruto! Try again... |
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HalibelTheEspada said: metsujin said: Well I mean, when you think about it he was hidden pretty well. There's a reason his wanted poster was the only one that was never actually correct... would almost call it Sanji's doing if it weren't for his reactions to his posters' appearances and to Duval.A bit disappointed Sanji isn't related to some royal family or something. But given the sudden appearance of his family, Oda was really sneaky. I can literally see some fans using this excuse to people who called this BS (and by 'this' I mean Sanji's family that we never heard of before): "The Vinsmokes are assassins, they are part of the underwold market, of course we wouldn't here of them 600 chapters before, praise GOda." Or something like that lmao (Inb4 I'm joking... or am I?). And another thing is that his family is infamous throughout the New World... and judging by the lack of info practically everyone in East Blue had of even the Grand Line as a whole, it's pretty safe to say they wouldn't know much of the going-ons in the New World. Not to mention, as they said before they're from North Blue, so they would have had to cross the Red Line. And to really settle things, the New World is on the side of the Grand Line that North Blue is... so it only makes sense that any information on that side of the Red Line is unlikely to really be heard in the other half, as most people in one half don't really have much reason to cross to the other. That's why I said Oda is sneaky xD But you can't expect me to believe the wanted poster thing... I just can't. Sanji's first wanted poster was clearly Oda's 'troll', don't get me wrong, I like this for Sanji's character, he was really falling behind Zoro, and even Law's shadow, can't say Luffy since he is the main character and gets to shine every arc, but other than Luffy, the other one who stood out more from the SH's this couple of years was Zoro, his actions were always 'heroic' and that of a 'true' nakama, like in Thriller Bark against Kuma, or kneeling and begging Mihawk to train him just so he can become stronger to help his captain, etc. That stood out the most from all the crew members, they all have their moments, but not like Zoro, and I'm happy because as I said this for Sanji's character. |
| Oda is really good with slice of life type of conversations. This chapter is pretty much text heavy. I am happy that most people theory went wrong XD I think nobody predicted that Sanji is from assassin family. |
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| Interesting Chapter. I certainly didn't expext Sanji to be part of an Assassin family. I only hope that side story won't take too long. One Question: Could someone explain the bounty that Pekoms partner had in the last chapter? The translation I read said "1 Billion Berries" which surely can't be right. Otherwise I'm interested to see what kind of person the guy is, that destoryed Zou. |
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Luppi said: Interesting Chapter. I certainly didn't expext Sanji to be part of an Assassin family. I only hope that side story won't take too long. One Question: Could someone explain the bounty that Pekoms partner had in the last chapter? The translation I read said "1 Billion Berries" which surely can't be right. Otherwise I'm interested to see what kind of person the guy is, that destoryed Zou. Hm? Partner of Pekoms who had 1B bounty? Do you mean Capone Bege? His bounty was translated wrong and said 3B first, but it was later said that the official bounty was 300m. If you mean Jack the Drought, which isn't Pekoms partner, but an enemy as he is a right hand man of Kaido (while Pekoms is under Big Mom, Big Mom and Kaido are 2 enemies as they are both Younko), then yes, his bounty is indeed 1B. Also, we already saw what kind of man Jack is, which is exactly why he deserves a 1B bounty, unlike what others say. Many people forget that above 300m (or 400m? Always confuse it tnx to Luffy's bounty history, asshole... XD), your bounty doesn't go up easily anymore and doesn't even indicate your strength anymore, but the immediate THREAT you possess towards innocent people and the world government. Considering what we already saw Jack doing to a tribe full of strong warriors, just think about how many others Jack will have slaughtered without any reason. If he is still alive, don't be surpriced that his bounty could be even higher after what he tried to do to Mingo's escort fleet, where he did succeed to put a large amount of damage towards, considering it consisted of Tsuru, Fujitora AND Sengoku. |
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Benphyre said: DarkAngelz said: To accuse Oda of ripping of HxH JUST because Sanji is from a line of assassins is really ridiculous. Next thing I'll hear from you is that Mashima ripped off Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles b/c talking ninja like reptiles/amphibians who kick ass exist in the series. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Toad ^ Like, TALKING ASS KICKING HOARD OF REPTILES/AMPHIBIANS! OMG HE RIPPED OFF "EM! NOOOOOO! -- Also you can say that HxH ripped off Naruto cause HUNTER EXAMS VS CHONIN EXAMS YO! What about HxH ripping off YuGiOh? Like, Leorio is soooooo Joey Wheeler in disguise. Like, both want to help people through medicine yo! That's enough! That's all that's needed by your logic. A loose resemblance of ideas but execution matters null. Like, No man. I just said that it reminded me of HxH. When did I mention ripped off? Why so defensive? I'm accusing Oda?? Wtf is wrong with you dude? Hiroyuuki said: @DarkAngelz lol calm down, he 'insulted' Oda (imo, just accused at it's best but anyway), it's not the end of the world XD Sorry bout that guys. Maybe quoted the wrong person. The pissedoff-ness probably came from mangastream comments and just resounded over here. Mah bad. Point still stands tho. rahamim said: DarkAngelz said: To accuse Oda of ripping of HxH JUST because Sanji is from a line of assassins is really ridiculous. Next thing I'll hear from you is that Mashima ripped off Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles b/c talking ninja like reptiles/amphibians who kick ass exist in the series. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Toad ^ Like, TALKING ASS KICKING HOARD OF REPTILES/AMPHIBIANS! OMG HE RIPPED OFF "EM! NOOOOOO! -- Also you can say that HxH ripped off Naruto cause HUNTER EXAMS VS CHONIN EXAMS YO! What about HxH ripping off YuGiOh? Like, Leorio is soooooo Joey Wheeler in disguise. Like, both want to help people through medicine yo! That's enough! That's all that's needed by your logic. A loose resemblance of ideas but execution matters null. Like, No man. HunterxHunter came out Before naruto! Try again... Sorry bout that. Hadn't fact checked that particular bit of info. Just fact checked my Yu-Gi-Oh statement, and YGO did come out before HxH, so I still have some valid points, Also, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles came out apparently in 84. So yes, my parallels, for the most part, still stand. renzospark said: Good chapter, always loved how Zoro talking logically to the crew, that's why he became my favorite character lol. DarkAngelz said: To accuse Oda of ripping of HxH JUST because Sanji is from a line of assassins is really ridiculous. Next thing I'll hear from you is that Mashimaripped off Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles b/c talking ninja like reptiles/amphibians who kick ass exist in the series. http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Toad ^ Like, TALKING ASS KICKING HOARD OF REPTILES/AMPHIBIANS! OMG HE RIPPED OFF "EM! NOOOOOO! You mean Masashi Kishimoto? Mashima is the one who created Fairy Tail man, not Naruto lol My bad there too. I had been rushing through the post and hadn't bothered fact checking and also accidentally wrote Mashima instead of Kishimoto. Gah. This is what I get for marathoning Fairy Tail >.< -- Any more criticisms? Regardless of all those issues, point still stands. And I am bitter about all these "SANJI = KILLUA" crap. If it wasn't obvious, I'm not a fan of HxH. I actually liked Killua in the old anime version, and really dislike him in the 2011 version. I also abhor Gon, and the HxH fans. Literally there is nothing substantially similar between Killua's family plot and Sanji's. Anyone who claims there is, at this point in the story at least, is grasping at straws at best. |
metsujin said: Well in regards to the wanted poster I definitely don't think Sanji purposely did it, but I doubt it's an accident (on Oda's part) that it's taken this long for Sanji alone to get an actual photo (albeit a bad one) of himself in his bounty. I'm sure Oda always at least planned to eventually reveal this back-story for Sanji. Of course it was also intended as a joke, but the initial idea probably spawned from this right here... no reason it couldn't be both.That's why I said Oda is sneaky xD But you can't expect me to believe the wanted poster thing... I just can't. Sanji's first wanted poster was clearly Oda's 'troll', don't get me wrong, I like this for Sanji's character, he was really falling behind Zoro, and even Law's shadow, can't say Luffy since he is the main character and gets to shine every arc, but other than Luffy, the other one who stood out more from the SH's this couple of years was Zoro, his actions were always 'heroic' and that of a 'true' nakama, like in Thriller Bark against Kuma, or kneeling and begging Mihawk to train him just so he can become stronger to help his captain, etc. That stood out the most from all the crew members, they all have their moments, but not like Zoro, and I'm happy because as I said this for Sanji's character. But anyway, I agree it is nice for Sanji to get some attention. But at the same time, when you think about it, it's been even longer since Zoro had anything about his past mentioned. Hell we know just as little about Zoro's origins as Sanji's. Same with Franky and Nami as well... though those 2 already had entire arcs dedicated to them. |
HalibelTheEspada said: metsujin said: Well in regards to the wanted poster I definitely don't think Sanji purposely did it, but I doubt it's an accident (on Oda's part) that it's taken this long for Sanji alone to get an actual photo (albeit a bad one) of himself in his bounty. I'm sure Oda always at least planned to eventually reveal this back-story for Sanji. Of course it was also intended as a joke, but the initial idea probably spawned from this right here... no reason it couldn't be both.That's why I said Oda is sneaky xD But you can't expect me to believe the wanted poster thing... I just can't. Sanji's first wanted poster was clearly Oda's 'troll', don't get me wrong, I like this for Sanji's character, he was really falling behind Zoro, and even Law's shadow, can't say Luffy since he is the main character and gets to shine every arc, but other than Luffy, the other one who stood out more from the SH's this couple of years was Zoro, his actions were always 'heroic' and that of a 'true' nakama, like in Thriller Bark against Kuma, or kneeling and begging Mihawk to train him just so he can become stronger to help his captain, etc. That stood out the most from all the crew members, they all have their moments, but not like Zoro, and I'm happy because as I said this for Sanji's character. But anyway, I agree it is nice for Sanji to get some attention. But at the same time, when you think about it, it's been even longer since Zoro had anything about his past mentioned. Hell we know just as little about Zoro's origins as Sanji's. Same with Franky and Nami as well... though those 2 already had entire arcs dedicated to them. It would be weird seeing something about Zoro now... he was part of a samurai family or something? Somethings about some characters are enough. Like Nami she was found when she was young and raised by Bellemere, we don't really need something like her parents being some kinda badasses or something like that. |
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Raijin-sama619 said: There is a guy on youtube who got it right (TheFlyingPanda iirc), he even got the third son of the family part right, as it was indicated in Sanji's name (san = three). For the most part he was just wild guessing it though.I think nobody predicted that Sanji is from assassin family. SwordsmanDan said: I don't think that Sanji's rank in the straw hat matters at all. The way I see it, because Big Mam is one of the 4 yonkou who governs the sea in the New World, they were expected to respect the authority of Big Mam, and go under her. Pretty much become her "family", instead of just being in an alliance.According the mangastream Brook says "His Bride-to-be is the daughter of a Yonkou. Which means that after his marriage, we'd all become underlings in Big Mom's pirate crew." How does this make sense? Sanji is approximately #3 in the Straw Hats authority-wise. How does anything a crew-member goes off and does make the captain an underling of someone else? I can understand it might make him become allied with Big Mom, but I don't get the underling part. Let's take Jimbe as a comparison. Jimbe's crew was in an alliance with Big Mam, but they were not that close in relationship at all. Jimbe called off the alliance so easily. Whitebeard was probably the only rare case where he kept a good family-like relationship with all his alliances. Since Sanji is her would-be son-in-law, the world would expect Sanji's (second) family (the straw hats) which of lower ranking in the pirate hierarchy, to join Big Mam's crew, as some sort of a respect toward one of the kings, and in return, they will be treated well because they are now a family. Sanji's biological family, the Vinsmoke is not expected to join the Big Mam's crew because they were on equal terms. |
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SwordsmanDan said: I don't think that Sanji's rank in the straw hat matters at all. The way I see it, because Big Mam is one of the 4 yonkou who governs the sea in the New World, they were expected to respect the authority of Big Mam, and go under her. Pretty much become her "family", instead of just being in an alliance.According the mangastream Brook says "His Bride-to-be is the daughter of a Yonkou. Which means that after his marriage, we'd all become underlings in Big Mom's pirate crew." How does this make sense? Sanji is approximately #3 in the Straw Hats authority-wise. How does anything a crew-member goes off and does make the captain an underling of someone else? I can understand it might make him become allied with Big Mom, but I don't get the underling part. ToG25thBaam said: Let's take Jimbe as a comparison. Jimbe's crew was in an alliance with Big Mam, but they were not that close in relationship at all. Jimbe called off the alliance so easily. Whitebeard was probably the only rare case where he kept a good family-like relationship with all his alliances. Since Sanji is her would-be son-in-law, the world would expect Sanji's (second) family (the straw hats) which of lower ranking in the pirate hierarchy, to join Big Mam's crew, as some sort of a respect toward one of the kings, and in return, they will be treated well because they are now a family. Sanji's biological family, the Vinsmoke is not expected to join the Big Mam's crew because they were on equal terms. Then Zorro called it right. If Luffy gets his way he's going end up butting heads with two emperors at the same time. Let's just hope he runs into someone like Marco the Phoenix or Jimbe to help him out. I would be really surprised if Luffy actually managed to get Sanji back without fighting. The only time he was stealthy was when he was breaking into Impel Down. Okay, so maybe he can be stealthy swiping food from the refrigerator too... |
Hiroyuuki said: Luppi said: Interesting Chapter. I certainly didn't expext Sanji to be part of an Assassin family. I only hope that side story won't take too long. One Question: Could someone explain the bounty that Pekoms partner had in the last chapter? The translation I read said "1 Billion Berries" which surely can't be right. Otherwise I'm interested to see what kind of person the guy is, that destoryed Zou. Hm? Partner of Pekoms who had 1B bounty? Do you mean Capone Bege? His bounty was translated wrong and said 3B first, but it was later said that the official bounty was 300m. If you mean Jack the Drought, which isn't Pekoms partner, but an enemy as he is a right hand man of Kaido (while Pekoms is under Big Mom, Big Mom and Kaido are 2 enemies as they are both Younko), then yes, his bounty is indeed 1B. Also, we already saw what kind of man Jack is, which is exactly why he deserves a 1B bounty, unlike what others say. Many people forget that above 300m (or 400m? Always confuse it tnx to Luffy's bounty history, asshole... XD), your bounty doesn't go up easily anymore and doesn't even indicate your strength anymore, but the immediate THREAT you possess towards innocent people and the world government. Considering what we already saw Jack doing to a tribe full of strong warriors, just think about how many others Jack will have slaughtered without any reason. If he is still alive, don't be surpriced that his bounty could be even higher after what he tried to do to Mingo's escort fleet, where he did succeed to put a large amount of damage towards, considering it consisted of Tsuru, Fujitora AND Sengoku. Oh yeah sry, for some reason I thought the mammoth and Jack were two different people.^^" Ok 300m sounds reasonable, I mean more than raw strength, he was pretty clever. I was just surprised to see a bounty of actually 1 Billion appear so "casually", when I thought that sum would already be in the realms of Whitebeard or Shanks. The bounties of the other top guys must be huge then. I mean sure the bounty is also an indicator of your threat to people in general and not necessarily of your fighting strength, but almost all of them must have higher bounties, otherwise it would be kind of weird. |
metsujin said: No, Zoro wasn't ever said to be from a samurai family or anything... he randomly showed up in Kuina's dojo one day and challenged them, then lost to Kuina and became a student there and her rival.It would be weird seeing something about Zoro now... he was part of a samurai family or something? Somethings about some characters are enough. Like Nami she was found when she was young and raised by Bellemere, we don't really need something like her parents being some kinda badasses or something like that. I don't see how the situation between Nami and Sanji is any different though... Sanji also met Zeff when he was young and was raised by him. I mean... had this never happened anyone could've just said "Oh, Sanji was just from a line of chefs who ran into Zeff and nothing else needs to be said." At least Sanji had a decently sized arc dedicated to him... Zoro had 4 chapters (4-7). Of course this is a pointless discussion, when I'm pretty sure Zoro's gonna have plenty more back-story if and when Wano comes around, but I'm just saying... I don't think Sanji's had any less love than the other Straw Hats. |
G_Spark233 said: So much for Sanji being a prince. RIP countless theories. Chopper being in love was priceless lol Nekomamushi is a lot more fun than I was expecting. bkim999 said: Inori_is_love said: I think there's more to Brook and the Vinsmokes than just the fact that he's heard of them. But more importantly my theory is that Sanji will be in the middle of his wedding ceremony and then Zoro will bust in through the door kick Sanji's bride and Big Mam out of the way and then confess his feeling to Sanji. Then the Wedding can resume but with Sanji and Zoro. Zoro x Sanji forever I also found it a bit strange: I mentioned it before, at post #30, that I wildly guessed that maybe the Vinsmoke are the ones who killed Brook's crew! This episode pretty good. Nekomamushi was very funny. Didn't expect The Garfield reference. This arc'll probably dig into Sanji and Brook's past. Chopper lovesick. Finally Vinsmock family - assassins, Zoldyck much. |
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| Now that is funny a family of Assassins :X |
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Tsu-kki said: Lol another one that likes to copy Togashi. Vinsmokes and Sanji = Zoldycks and Killua... LOL I just finished watching Hunter x Hunter not long ago , so that is the first thing that popped up in my mind when "family of assassins" was mentioned Wasn't expecting that. Decent chapter |
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| So Sanji comes from a family of assassins huh? I was expecting nobles or mafias so this is a nice surprise. |
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